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Post by Oggy on Nov 8, 2009 23:14:38 GMT
Weather he is correct or not, I think one liner comments with no explanation are pretty useless and boring That is understandable but surely if you really go for it until you almost pass out then its going to give you roughly your max HR which can be in turn used to sort out your training zones? No I'm not that serious about it, just been getting a bit interested in it after reading a few things, would also like to make the most of the training that i do rather than wasting my time doing things that may be doing more damage than good. Its a science with many different theory's, if i can use a little of it to improve my performance then great but i dont think it should ever detract from having fun.
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Post by Russ on Nov 8, 2009 23:47:18 GMT
Sorta, prob safest way is on a turbo trainer, only if it's because if you keel over you wont do it in traffic. Couple methods here www.timetrialtraining.co.uk/S6MaxHeartRateTests.htmBut read this first, don't want you dying on us, well not until you have passed the admin passwords on! www.brianmac.co.uk/hrm2.htmPS..Jedi I'm sure will be a wealth of information he used to be pretty handy at the darkside before seeing the light.
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Post by danevs on Nov 9, 2009 15:55:31 GMT
200 minus age is rubbish max hr has no bearing on training at all Without knowing his max HR how exactly do you suppose he works out his training zones then? Russ seems to have it covered anyway. ;D However mine is in fact 198 Holy crap! That's quite high for your age Russ, fair play. What's your resting HR? I think Oggy's at the level now where he can ride in a group and keep his HR relatively low. He's not such a lazy tw*t as he used to be. Ogg, I'll lend you the "Bible" this week. 10 mins reading and it'll all become clear! ;D
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Post by Russ on Nov 9, 2009 16:57:01 GMT
Been laid up with a bad cold for nearly a week and had a couple strong coffees today so just checked and it's at 64, I'd expect normally about 56-58ish. For me the pain in the legs starts at about 185bpm.
Book I'm reading at the moment is "The Complete Guide to Endurance Training 3rd Edition" by Jon Ackland ISBN: 978-0-7136-7903-8
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Post by Craigy Boy on Nov 9, 2009 17:05:36 GMT
interesting stuff guys. im looking to get more of an endurance fitness, i'm really good on 16mile loops like the marin and penmachno ect ect, but i burn out after the 22mile mark. should i invest in a HR monitor, or just simply have longer rides? im hoping to enter alot of races this summer, so i want to get my fitness up. don't wana be too serious just want to be able to ride some races
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Post by monster on Nov 9, 2009 19:34:25 GMT
im new to this HRM thing, but i did notice after a ride on saturday i had two cups of coffee and my HR took nearly two hours to come back down so i will not be doing that mistake again. HRM is handy for your recovery just to make sure i went for a hard ride sunday and no coffee after ride and HR was normal.
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Post by jedi on Nov 10, 2009 23:19:01 GMT
dan, you work out training zones using percenatges of your heartrate average taken from the 10 mile time trial. max heartrate serves no purpose in training.
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Post by danevs on Nov 11, 2009 14:28:08 GMT
dan, you work out training zones using percenatges of your heartrate average taken from the 10 mile time trial. max heartrate serves no purpose in training. Heartrate average after a 10mile TT will be a good indicator of lactate threshold (and therefore useful as a fitness test for racers) but no good for determining HR zones. LT has no relation to HR zones. No one is saying that max heart rate will improve your fitness but a knowledge of your max HR is certainly useful if you're going to take your training seriously. Do you race/train yourself?
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Post by jedi on Nov 13, 2009 15:26:15 GMT
i used to race/coach triathlon,tt etc... coached 4 national champs
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Post by campbell on Nov 13, 2009 20:00:30 GMT
Book I'm reading at the moment is "The Complete Guide to Endurance Training 3rd Edition" by Jon Ackland ISBN: 978-0-7136-7903-8 The book I'm reading at the moment is The Gates of Rome by Conn Iggulden, isbn 0-00-713690-0. ;D
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Post by danevs on Nov 13, 2009 21:13:18 GMT
i used to race/coach triathlon,tt etc... coached 4 national champs Fair play.
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Post by Oggy on Nov 15, 2009 14:49:34 GMT
Oh well this has gone tits up, got my HRM last week and have been ill with a bad chest ever since so training has stopped until i can kick it. Suppose it didnt help getting completely smashed last night now the chest is ten times worse Will be doing a max HR test\race pace test or whatever you want to call it as soon as play resumes
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Post by dyls on Nov 15, 2009 18:53:30 GMT
I've been using my Polar one for 3/4 years now. Hasn't done me much good ;D but always handy to keep an eye on your HR just incase it gets too fast and explodes.
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Post by willwild on Nov 19, 2009 12:38:29 GMT
I've been using my HRM for a couple of months now and i have abosuletly no idea what any of it means!
my resting heart rate hovers around 60, but if i even stand up then it jumps to around 70-80. my max heart rate climbing is not that different to when i decend :s
Do you need to take your riding very seriously to achieve any gain useing one of these?
Although saying that, playing top trumps with other ppl while riding adds a nice new element to riding
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Post by danevs on Nov 19, 2009 12:44:41 GMT
I've been using my HRM for a couple of months now and i have abosuletly no idea what any of it means! my resting heart rate hovers around 60, but if i even stand up then it jumps to around 70-80. my max heart rate climbing is not that different to when i decend :s Do you need to take your riding very seriously to achieve any gain useing one of these? Although saying that, playing top trumps with other ppl while riding adds a nice new element to riding You'd see the benefit if you were training properly mate, as it is you're lucky enough to be able to just ride and still be very fit. If you're going to start doing intervals or zone specific rides then your HRM will be invaluable. Had a fitness assesment today at Le Sport and my resting HR was 46bpm. Calculated my VO 2max at 72 which I'm damn pleased about. Must be doing something right up to now.
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