sarge
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"Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward"
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Post by sarge on Mar 14, 2011 13:53:29 GMT
Right, Rallybiker and myself have just started training at Total Physique in Amlwch. It's a great gym, and the training vibe in there is second to none... Both lifting hard and heavy.
As discussed previously on here, the best ways to improve speed and power are to use focused training methods off the bike. Every athlete, no matter the sport, these days trains with weight....
If you want any tips, post on here and I will discuss. In the words of Ronnie Coleman 'lift some heavy ass weight!'
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Post by rallybiker on Mar 14, 2011 18:08:25 GMT
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Post by tinytim on Mar 14, 2011 19:55:31 GMT
to be honest fellas most people on here would like to up their stamina and hill climbing, so maybe you could give us a few pointers for off the bike weights training there because to be honest its hard carrying all this muscle i've gained lately, feeling it in the bike in a big way! ;D
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Post by rallybiker on Mar 14, 2011 21:46:43 GMT
to be honest fellas most people on here would like to up their stamina and hill climbing, so maybe you could give us a few pointers for off the bike weights training there because to be honest its hard carrying all this muscle i've gained lately, feeling it in the bike in a big way! ;D You know what to do Tim, it's just the injury that's stopping you doing it  Rotor cuff on the mend?? |
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Post by tinytim on Mar 15, 2011 12:20:21 GMT
I've been training Aled, got some protein powder that had a massive effect on muscle gain! Put on a lot of muscle in the last 6 weeks by doing just two sessions a week! It's pretty freaky to be honest, gonna finish this tub and that's it. Been doing the cardio to and I know for a fact this muscle gain has really diminished by cardio capacity, its time to lay off the weights and put in some more miles, it's that time of year buddy!
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Post by rallybiker on Mar 15, 2011 16:47:41 GMT
Good man, Marin Willywave to get a baseline set for the years performances?   |
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Post by tinytim on Mar 15, 2011 19:43:28 GMT
perfomances!  no just getting my legs working will do me, willy waves are to much, no comps for me aled, leave that to the youngsters and masochists! if there is one thing i've discovered al its i'm not built for cycling! top heavy! ideally you need muscular legs and be slight of upper body, i'm completely the opposite ;D |
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Post by buffypara on Mar 18, 2011 16:54:41 GMT
As discussed previously on here, the best ways to improve speed and power are to use focused training methods off the bike. Every athlete, no matter the sport, these days trains with weight.... I have to agree with you. I started going to the gym about 2 months ago, to help recover from a back injury and gain some leg strength for lifting patients at work. I've mainly been focussing on core stability and legs, but also doing cardio interval training and arm weights. I've noticed a huge improvement on the bike, especially on the climbs. I've knocked minutes off my climb time at Llandegla, but also it helps when powering over obstacles or on short steep climbs. Overall, my stamina has improved and my enjoyment on the bike  (and I'm not shifting huge weights, just girly ones) |
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Post by Oggy on Mar 22, 2011 21:33:34 GMT
Intervals are defiantly the way to go to improve speed, really worked for me in the past, rowing, running and bike intervals can all be done in the gym in very little time (no need to spend all day in there) and have a great effect on your riding. As for weight training I really see no point, unless you are taking your cycling to regular competitive levels, there will be very little benefit, and big muscle gains will hinder more than help you, as the old saying go's 'all show no go'. Cycling is one of them sports where the best way to train is to actually just cycle, although the gym can be handy in the winter months when its dark and wet outside |
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Post by oldgit on Mar 23, 2011 9:23:27 GMT
;D Agree with Oggy!
Ride a bike; Ride a bike
Best training you can get. ;D
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samcsd
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Post by samcsd on Mar 23, 2011 9:55:26 GMT
I agree with that, my gym work consists of stamina/fitness work, bike, rowing and cross trainer, no treadmill though I HATE running, and I always finnish with a swim to loosen the muscles and stop any cramping. I prefere the gym for fitness mostly for it's safety, riding on the road is way to dangerous, the number of times I've nearly been sucked into a large truck is not funny  . When it comes to weights I'm doing occational (once a month or so) toning and core exercize, using bodyweight only or light weights, if nothing it's helps when you have to push uphill! And the best body armour for MTB is actually muscle so some is far from a bad thing. Only thing I'm still unsure about is 'extra' nutrition protein shakes and the like, I've used some before but as tinytim said you grow really quickly, is that healthy? I try my best to keep a balanced diet, is that enough to cope with regular excersize? |
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Post by akasmithy on Mar 23, 2011 10:25:23 GMT
Try YouTube MTBstrengthtraining by James Wilson. He's got the right idea. He trains loads including Yeti mtb team nuf said
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yahoomagoo
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Post by yahoomagoo on Mar 29, 2011 19:27:12 GMT
I've successfully persuaded my partner to join the gym! I started to notice some slackness in the belly and buttock area after Christmas. 2 months later and he seems to have tightened up those areas admirably. Definitely recommend it to all of you out there wanting to get into bikini shape for the summer months! www.malefitness.net/photos/christian_engel.html |
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Post by rallybiker on Apr 1, 2011 20:02:33 GMT
;D Agree with Oggy! Ride a bike; Ride a bike Best training you can get. ;D Not really! Not if you don't want serious knee problems later on in life. Also who wants to look like a deformed stick insect. You need to be balanced in my opinion! You -over develop specific body parts, and the weaker parts will start to overcompensate for their deficiencies, no doubt creating tendon and joint problems! www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/384659-Perfect-cyclist-physique |
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Post by Oggy on Apr 1, 2011 20:47:38 GMT
Yes a bit of gym work for serious cyclists in defiantly beneficial but will be of no benefit to ameteur cyclists. Weekend warriors are far better just riding bikes for cycle fitness gains rarther than wasting valuable time in the gym and gaining very minimal benefits, after all time is precious to most people nower days and a bike ride will always be more fun than a sweaty gym Gyms can be handy when the weather is rubbish during the winter for getting that cardio in but gaining large amounts of muscle is nothing but detrimental to cycle fitness. Im not mega fit by any means but i used to be pretty unfit although i used to vist the gym 3 or 4 times a week for years. All i ever did was push weights and build muscle and my cycling fitness was absolute crap, i then decided enough was enough, i stopped all the weights and cycled like a mad man, i moved from getting in the 400 hundreds in enduro races to getting top hundreds within a year. I aint saying that im some super fit xc racer because that was never going to happen but the race positions defiantly tell a story. Cycle, cycle and cycle some more |
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Rotor cuff on the mend??
no just getting my legs working will do me, willy waves are to much, no comps for me aled, leave that to the youngsters and masochists! if there is one thing i've discovered al its i'm not built for cycling! top heavy! ideally you need muscular legs and be slight of upper body, i'm completely the opposite ;D
(and I'm not shifting huge weights, just girly ones)
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