Linking Antur Stiniog trails into bigger XC loop?

[heihei]

Has anyone done this yet? Am in the area next week and keen to do a big XC loop but would love to take in one of the downhills, so am interested if it's possible to access the top of the trails without doing the uplift.

PS Not trying to avoid paying the uplift charges - I'll prob do that another day, but interested to see if there is a way to link it in!

[taid]

I have cycled from Dolwyddelan through the forest to Blaenau Ffestiniog, which once you got out of the forest was crap. I have also cycled there from Cwm Penmachno north of the forest there which was worse, and I have also cycled there from Cwm Penmachno through the forest and quary which was ok if I remember rightly.
John