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Post by summittoppler on Jun 13, 2013 6:31:18 GMT
O bullocks, who the eck started this thread  As I said at the top I'm just thinking out loud. I've had my fair share of time away from the forum and I fully understand that peeps will come and go. It was just my opinion  Oggy, you're right by having different forms of biking will encourage more to follow the forum, bonus. Gus, you're correct in saying that more 'new' peeps need to lead rides cos as Sally said it can be a chore doing it week in week out. At the end of the day as long as we are all having fun on our bikes then so be it, there's more important things to get rattled about. Anyway, why don't you all join me and Smithy around the campfire next week for a good old sing song  |
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Post by Oggy on Jun 13, 2013 6:53:20 GMT
Gus get with the Times, to shoot road riding down just because it doesnt interest you is very narrow minded, surely road riding should be encouraged as a lot of members do multiple forms of cycling so why shouldnt we use this place to arrange them to, surely by bringing some diversity in we should open up the forum to more people If that's the case then the forum should be renamed and re-launched as the title is misleading. I also don't understand why a ride gets cancelled due to lack of interest when people have put their names down  If the forum survives great but if not the trails will still be there Because i was going to take a day of my life to lead a group of potentially slower riders to try encourage people to get out and perhaps teach people how to hold a wheel etc and how to ride in a group as well as had the craic with people who i normally dont ride with. The 2 people that put there names down are totally capable riders and would have been on hand to encourage anyone struggling, help people with road riding techniques and keep the group together Also why is the title miss leading, so what it has a small road section and we do a few road rides, not the end of the world is it just because you dont do it, this thread is f*ucking stupid You obviously dont seem to bothered if it survives or not but im pretty sure you wouldnt have dont half the rides you have done and met half the people you have met through our great sport without it |
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Post by sally on Jun 13, 2013 13:56:53 GMT
It was a great idea Oggy but maybe the mileage was a bit high for the first time ? It was a bit daunting for me as i did'nt want to be the wimp hanging off the back!!
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Post by motoxman on Jun 13, 2013 14:59:24 GMT
If that's the case then the forum should be renamed and re-launched as the title is misleading. I also don't understand why a ride gets cancelled due to lack of interest when people have put their names down If the forum survives great but if not the trails will still be there Because i was going to take a day of my life to lead a group of potentially slower riders to try encourage people to get out and perhaps teach people how to hold a wheel etc and how to ride in a group as well as had the craic with people who i normally dont ride with. The 2 people that put there names down are totally capable riders and would have been on hand to encourage anyone struggling, help people with road riding techniques and keep the group together Also why is the title miss leading, so what it has a small road section and we do a few road rides, not the end of the world is it just because you dont do it, this thread is f*ucking stupid You obviously dont seem to bothered if it survives or not but im pretty sure you wouldnt have dont half the rides you have done and met half the people you have met through our great sport without it If you want to make the forum more general cycling then the title could be changed, I never said you shouldn't. Folks find the site through searching for MTB in North Wales. What happened on Sunday is typical of what happens on here...you make a suggestion, people say they'd be up for it, you post it up and everyone goes quiet. It's no wonder the small number of people who actually post rides becomes fewer and less frequent. And yes I clearly couldn't give a sh1t whether it survives that's why I said "if it does great". Better to read comments and take them in before before making any knee jerk reactions. The fact is if the forum did die you'd still be able to ride bikes, the forum isn't crucial to do that. A subtle point missed. You are absolutely correct in your final point and that's what's been good about the forum and what's also disappointing about it going quiet. I also wouldn't know where the best scone outlets in North Wales are, and for that I thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 20:05:15 GMT
As an administrator Oggy you should show some restraint in how you react to a persons opinion, to reply to posts like you have done in this thread (and others in the past) shows a lack of control, using the F-word as you did clearly shows a lack of ability to put your views forward in a intelligent manner, to call me narrow minded for have an opinion which is different to your own clearly shows that you yourself are in fact the narrow minded one for thinking I should get with the times and like what you and others like.
I have absolutely no problem with anyone road riding, if people wish to do it and share it with this forum then that's fine, there's even a road section they can use for it (how great is that).
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Post by Oggy on Jun 13, 2013 20:15:36 GMT
I also wouldn't know where the best scone outlets in North Wales are, and for that I thank you. And the worst  As an administrator Oggy you should show some restraint in how you react to a persons opinion, to reply to posts like you have done in this thread (and others in the past) shows a lack of control, using the F-word as you did clearly shows a lack of ability to put your views forward in a intelligent manner, to call me narrow minded for have an opinion which is different to your own clearly shows that you yourself are in fact the narrow minded one for thinking I should get with the times and like what you and others like. I have absolutely no problem with anyone road riding, if people wish to do it and share it with this forum then that's fine, there's even a road section they can use for it (how great is that). Personally i couldnt care less, and i like using the F word, i find it a good way to express my disgust in someone else's narrow minded views. And as for being intelligent ive never pretended to be remotely intelligent and i think most people would agree, im just here for the greater good and i think that riding of all types of push bike should be actively encouraged, f£uk me i might start a unicycle forum, (broadminded you see) taking it you wont be partaking in that either since this should be a mtb only site PS, what has me being an admin got to do with anything, im not payed, i do it out of enjoyment, so why should i have any restraint when people start winging when all the admin of this forum are trying to push things forward. Forum Tarmac Ride??? Cancelled due to lack of interest??? WTF!!! I thought it would've been the most popular forum ride on here.  It's been a while since I've been on here, lost interest with the place and the lack of input from members who just seemed to lurk without getting involved with threads or just hijacked theads to rant on about how great a stretch of tarmac is And comments like the above are really grown up, to basically shoot down someones efforts to get a ride going is narrow mindedness in a can, i think i see an F word in there to Gus |
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Post by campbell on Jun 13, 2013 20:27:53 GMT
It all became a bit too bitchy a couple of years ago, starting with Martin's departure, then FTASB, two of the three original mods of the site when I joined. Then there was all the anti Llandegla comments, culminating with the cancellation of a forum ride there because it wasn't as popular with some of the regulars. Whatever happened with Al/Phil et al, AKA 'the wrexham lot' or whatever it was they got called split the forum massively, underlined by a post Craig put up basically slagging them off despite them being probably the most prolific riders on here for a period of time. For me, I look at when I first joined and the groups I used to go out with, I met some great people, some of which still use this site regularly, some use 'the other site' and some don't use any. I dip in and out of both sites, but tend to just ride with people from work as my shifts aren't particularly user friendly. I don't really follow the political side of the forum any more. I'm glad it is still here, even though I may have fallen out with a few folk a while back over a thread. For example, I am after a new wheelset, and based on a thread on here I won't be touching Superstar hubs, despite the savings, if this site wasn't here then I may have wasted the money. I will say though, Oggy, that you used to give Dan no end of grief about road bikes, lycra and all the rest. This place has certainly changed |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 20:56:25 GMT
I also wouldn't know where the best scone outlets in North Wales are, and for that I thank you. And the worst As an administrator Oggy you should show some restraint in how you react to a persons opinion, to reply to posts like you have done in this thread (and others in the past) shows a lack of control, using the F-word as you did clearly shows a lack of ability to put your views forward in a intelligent manner, to call me narrow minded for have an opinion which is different to your own clearly shows that you yourself are in fact the narrow minded one for thinking I should get with the times and like what you and others like. I have absolutely no problem with anyone road riding, if people wish to do it and share it with this forum then that's fine, there's even a road section they can use for it (how great is that). Personally i couldnt care less, and i like using the F word, i find it a good way to express my disgust in someone else's narrow minded views. And as for being intelligent ive never pretended to be remotely intelligent and i think most people would agree, im just here for the greater good and i think that riding of all types of push bike should be actively encouraged, f£uk me i might start a unicycle forum, (broadminded you see) taking it you wont be partaking in that either since this should be a mtb only site PS, what has me being an admin got to do with anything, im not payed, i do it out of enjoyment, so why should i have any restraint when people start winging when all the admin of this forum are trying to push things forward. Forum Tarmac Ride??? Cancelled due to lack of interest??? WTF!!! I thought it would've been the most popular forum ride on here. It's been a while since I've been on here, lost interest with the place and the lack of input from members who just seemed to lurk without getting involved with threads or just hijacked theads to rant on about how great a stretch of tarmac is And comments like the above are really grown up, to basically shoot down someones efforts to get a ride going is narrow mindedness in a can, i think i see an F word in there to Gus You can see the F word there, well done (it's a well known abbreviation), though it's not quite the same as using it the way you did - by actually spelling the whole word out and putting a * in it and then not removing the "U". As for the comment, well read it correctly and you'll see that I was actually pointing out that since so many members on here are into road biking and showed an interest it your efforts to put a ride together, you then end up cancelling it due to a lack of interest. How is that shooting down your efforts, a certain lack of intelligence is a pitiful thing. |
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Post by tinytim on Jun 13, 2013 21:00:15 GMT
Most of my riding is last minute due to shifts or training on my own, so I either phone certain mates or go on my own. I rarely use the site anymore and it's disappointing that I don't, I just pop in now and again. It's a great place, because of this site I improved my knowledge, skills and fitness tenfold, made some great mates and took myself and my bike to some amazing places. To blame road cycling, strava, social networks is a bit silly, all these things just enhance the forum even if it is indirectly. Times have changed, peeps have to work more generally, wages are static, prices of petrol, bikes and bits, everyday stuff have increased, this will be having some affect, as said before its the busy season for the racing fraternity, family holidays, weather, all these things have an impact on activity. I know a lot of my biking now has to be cost effective. I'll continue to use the forum and maybe find more time to ride with members frequently but that may be later on in the year when I am able to. Jeff put up an innocent post and then the accusations were started in quite an aggressive manner, in my opinion there was no need. And to be honest we definatly should include road cycling and we should also start a twitter account |
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Post by Dan B on Jun 13, 2013 21:02:58 GMT
Right enough of this! today I placed a poll on the facebook page to see what peoples thoughts are, to be honest of the 1320 that viewed the poll only 30 people could be arsed to vote or make comment (which says alot!) of those people the majority thought that what we have, and are doing is appreciated by 98% of the forum. Therefore if you have only come on here to pick holes, cause trouble, or generally be unhelpful then you are invited to leave and please close the door on the wayout!
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Post by Tarbo on Jun 13, 2013 22:44:52 GMT
O bullocks, who the eck started this thread Not sure, but it looks like they've just opened one of these  It appears to me that a simple comment has just escalated and got a bit out of hand. On the other hand though, it certainly has added a bit of life to the place  Regarding the first comment. Yes, I believe it has gone a bit quiet on here, but I wouldn't say the place has died though. Rides are still being posted up, not as regularly as there used to but I wouldn't put this down to the fact that everyone has turned to the 'Darkside'. The forum has always been a bit up and down as people come and go for whatever reasons. As Dan has pointed out, this could be due to family commitments, work constraints or just moved away from mountain biking. But I'm sure it will pick up again as the weather improves and more paople want to start hitting the trails again. From a personal point of view, I used to post rides up for every other weekend last year (I have my daughter every other weekend), ranging from all day epics to beginner's rides. These were all well attended and I would like to think everyone that turned up enjoyed them. All these rides were done at a social pace and we'd have plenty of stops and wait for the slower riders to catch up. However, during the winter I decided to do the cyclocross races as a form of keeping fit over the winter months. On my first race I was shocked at how bad I was, totally off the pace and with no acceleration, I was gutted. After a bit of time dwelling on how I got so bad I put it down to the fact that I never trained for the cyclocross. I thought that just by getting out I'd be fit enough to race, I was wrong. This year I have made the concious decision that I would ride for myself and not for other people. This has meant that I am doing what I want to do, whether it be road riding, cyclocross, time trials or just getting out on my mountain bike and as such the amount of rides I've posted has dropped significantly. Unfortunately for the forum, I think that a number of people who used to post up lots of rides are doing the same thing, and this is why the number of rides has dwindled. As has been mentioned in this thread, it's up to all the members to post up rides and not rely on the same people every week to put rides up. Unless this happens then the number of rides will not increase. As Gus pointed out, this was mentioned last year when I put a post up saying exactly the same thing. People will only get out what they out in, it's as simple as that. Regarding the introduction of the 'non mtb section'. This was done as there were a lot of people starting to spread their wings away from montain bikes, and not just road bikes. The problem was there was nowhere to write reports on what MBNW members were doing away from mountain bikes. For example the Winter Cyclocross Series and the report on the Ruthin Sprint Triathlon. There were all done my members of this place and I thought people would be interested in reading about them, and from the replies I think people did. It was not set up as a roadie section ans apart from Dan's epic Dragon ride, there aren't that many road ride write ups. Anyway, that's just my take on things from a personal poin of view rather than an admin point of view |
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