Walna Scar sacrilege...

[lou]

Seen this:

singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/walna-scar-sanitisation

And this:

www.bogtrotters.org/show_album_shot.php?jumpid=47301

Can't believe those pictures from the Bogtrotters after we rode the excellent descent back in May...

But interesting comments on the singletrack thread from rangerbill, had me thinking - should we be doing something about highlighting the good bits of track in North Wales that don't need 'santitising'? Would the Snowdonia NP (and local councils) do the same as the Lakes (and the Peak District) NP's /councils have done?

[iggy]

I'm gutted, but let's get this in perspective. The Walna Scar road is what it says it is, it has been a premissable right of way which 4x4's/horses/motorbikes etc have full entitlement to use but for the last 10 years nothing short of a motocross bike could manage, which has been a benefit to us MTB'ers.

I'd rather it hadn't changed but the lakes are for everyone and there plenty more where the Scar road came from.
Pity all the same...... cest la vie

[thistle]

If they'd bermed the corners 30-45 degrees it might be better ;D

Rangerbill's comment makes sense, however have you tried getting a local council to listen to anything from a cyclist/MTB rider?

[Rupert]

Do the councils not have to publish their planned improvements somehow before they carry them out. Not sure if this kind of thing is subject to planning if the ROW already exists, but it does seem strange that we should have to guess what the council might want to do and tell them not to!

Anyway, I'm not too worried about the local trails as Denbighshire don't even have enough money to fix A roads, but maybe Snowdonia / Gwynedd is more of an issue.

[lou]

It's a restricted byway (no motorised vehicles now)... Just sad really. I know they need to maintain the paths to combat erosion but I can't help wondering if they could have made it look less like the blue at whinlatter (minus berms) and a bit more like The Band in Langdale (yes I know that's a footpath). Rocks not gravel, and maybe more sustainable? Anyhow, give it 5 years and it'll probably be back to the state it was before!

Maybe when Flintshire council resurface the A541 I should start worrying about them surfacing Keegan's Lane, but not before?!

[thistle]

Oct 4, 2011 13:33:56 GMT lou said:

Maybe when Flintshire council resurface the A541 I should start worrying about them surfacing Keegan's Lane, but not before?!

Keegan's Lane is probably the sort of road that someone might complain about and the council would fill with concrete.
It kind of happened with Allt y Badi in Llangollen.
Maybe we should start making a map to send off to them then at least they can't say they didn't know?

I think the money is divided up between departments at the start of each year, so just because the Highways dept. don't have any money for road repairs doesn't necessarily mean the rights of way department have no money for repair work.

[gruffalo]

NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was just talking to the mrs about another weekend in the lakes for 2012 and they've trashed the Walna Scar road!!!

BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,
BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,
BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,
BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,
BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,
BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS,BARSTUDS!!!!!

I'm not happy

[voodoopiles]

I know it's buggered up everybody else's fun but at least some of us have been lucky enough to ride it in all it's glory

Just a thought, but if you're going to have a moan about it and declare it 'sanitised' then at least don't get spotted and immortalised pushing your bike down it ;D

www.bogtrotters.org/show_album_shot.php?srcdir=rides/2011/17sep&pic_ident=52

[gruffalo]

vimeo.com/34256668

Looks like some sections are starting to cut up again.....come on winter......do your worst!!

[buffypara]

Read this on the interweb a few days ago... motorised vehicles banned from Walna Scar

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-16942068